Video Games

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:02 am

Okay, you want the rundown.

In FFIV, the hero marries the female lead and they assume the throne of a country which lost its royalty over the events of the game.

The After Years has their son as the main character.

After Years is on the DS, and it's following up on FFIV being released on the DS. Just before that, it was on the GBA.

Is that more information for you?

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:27 am

OKAY!! I GIVE UP!

I cannot beat the Terra Tubes! I can beat every other level of Battletoads, including that fucking Revolution level, but not Terra Tubes!

Week for poor Lago, true believers, he fell into tragedy!

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:00 am

torrented the old doom games (Doom II, Final Doom, Ultimate Doom) a bit ago, and have been playing through those. I'm currently working through Doom 2 with the godmode on, just enjoying the experience of going through for the first time and taking out monsters with impunity. I'm actually somewhat surprised at how fucking complex some of the damned levels are...

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:07 am

Play it on ultra-violence without saving mid level. Or play it on nightmare, I can't even do that.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:45 am

Back in the day I completed doom 1 and doom 2 on nightmare. No cheating, of course.

I had an unnatural knack with those games. No idea why. I suck fairly badly at most FPS games. Unless I'm capturing flags or something, then I win, I just can't shoot for crap.

Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:29 am

PhoneLobster wrote:Back in the day I completed doom 1 and doom 2 on nightmare. No cheating, of course.

I had an unnatural knack with those games. No idea why. I suck fairly badly at most FPS games. Unless I'm capturing flags or something, then I win, I just can't shoot for crap.

Doom would auto-aim upwards and downwards for you. It also had certain weapons that would angle towards enemies, such as the plasma rifle.

Also, yes Prak, Doom has some very complex levels. ID software has always had some of the best level designers in the business. Quake and Quake 2 also has some very well made levels.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:51 am

I know that and still find no reasonable explanation of it. Maybe it was the whole thing where it was all keyboard.

And plasma gun? Bah, on nightmare you barely had the ammo. Every chance I got I was all about the shot gun. Single barrel of course. Plasma guns were saved for certain enemies, rockets for bosses.

violence in the media · Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:42 pm

Speaking of retro games, I've bee poking around and trying to find a copy of Dungeon Master. I've found places to download it, but I can't get it to run at all. I keep getting errors to the effect of "Fullscreen not supported" for any downloadable version. Any suggestions?

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:31 pm

DoS Box might be able to help you out. Problem is, you'd have to make a folder and mount it as the C drive for Dos Box and some other stuff.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:21 pm

Warning: DosBox seems to have trouble with folder names that contain spaces.

violence in the media · Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:29 pm

Hmmm, ok, I'll try that out. Thanks.

Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:53 pm

Yeah, the shotty really was the workhorse gun in Doom.

Oh, have you guys heard about the new Blood Bowl game that's coming out?

It sort of looks like it came out overnight, I hadn't heard a single thing about it until I saw it on Penny Arcade. Right now it looks like it's very well made.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:01 pm

Judging__Eagle wrote:Oh, have you guys heard about the new Blood Bowl game that's coming out?

It's made by these French guys who already made it.

Does that make sense?

They made a blood bowl clone called "Chaos League" I have a copy, I didn't like it that much but it IS very blood bowl from it's style and teams right to the mechanics of it (even if you play it in the real time mode).

Then GW took legal action against them while they were developing Chaos League 2.

Then they settled out of court and somehow walked away with the official franchise.

And now... Blood Bowl the official computer game. If you really are a blood bowl fan I expect you will like it, or you could go dig up a copy of Chaos League in the bargain bins if you can't wait.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:39 am

Okay, got the PS2. Bought a memory card and a game today.

The games are...

God of War
Shadow of the Colossus
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy X-2
Odin Sphere (the one I bought today).

Not sure about X-2, but, oh well, I like looking at pretty CG'd women in skimpy clothes as much as the next guy.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:58 am

Doom: look for DoomRL. It's a RogueLike. In Doom. It's the only RL I've ever beaten without cheating, and even then, only once. On Easy.

FFX-2: try to get Scan, Scan II and Scan III as soon as you can. That way you can scan your own team members, and rotate/zoom the camera however you like. Keep in mind that bit about skimpy clothes. Good times.

Oh, and the massage minigame is pretty funny. Also, Death Knight is an awesome class, and against Yojimbo you want to either have a couple of Samurai (for the "I have 1 HP, you now take 9998 damage!" ability) and 1 Healer, or just have a Samurai throw HEAPS of money at him.

Note that the way to win hard fights in FFX is to summon Yoimbo and throw heaps of money at him.

angelfromanotherpin · Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:37 pm

PhoneLobster wrote:And now... Blood Bowl the official computer game. If you really are a blood bowl fan I expect you will like it, or you could go dig up a copy of Chaos League in the bargain bins if you can't wait.

There was an official Blood Bowl game back in '95. It was eye-bleedingly terrible. Let's hope these new guys don't manage to screw up fantasy-violence-ball.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:35 pm

Judging__Eagle wrote:
PhoneLobster wrote:Back in the day I completed doom 1 and doom 2 on nightmare. No cheating, of course.

I had an unnatural knack with those games. No idea why. I suck fairly badly at most FPS games. Unless I'm capturing flags or something, then I win, I just can't shoot for crap.
Doom would auto-aim upwards and downwards for you. It also had certain weapons that would angle towards enemies, such as the plasma rifle.

Also, yes Prak, Doom has some very complex levels. ID software has always had some of the best level designers in the business. Quake and Quake 2 also has some very well made levels.

Oh, yeah, Doom & Quake are incredibly well designed. They are probably one of the few games that I am acquainted with some of the designers with. Not with Carmack or Romero or Mcgee directly. But I knew some of the lesser designers and their kids at that time. I did some last-minute beta at that time for them. I still suck at fps games but not as much as I did back then. But it was fun.

Yeah, id at quake & quake 2 greatness was one of the better game companies around in my opinion. If you look at SMU's The Guildhall at SMU. It was started by a lot of the dallas gaming mafia ex-employees. In the beginning, I remember noting a few of from id , 3d realms and Rogue but it's been a while.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:25 pm

I have no love for the quake series.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:02 pm

Update: God of War's pretty good. For some reason, the corpseburner outside of Pandora's Temple struck me as hilarious. He was so jaded, it was funny. Ulyaoth from Eternal Darkness could have taken lessons from this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-pdioXqj8 (Ulyaoth's version of the cutscene starts at 1:45).

I'm also through most of the 4th book on Odin Sphere. And now that I'm not having to learn the game, I'm kicking ass.

Made a start on Final Fantasy 12, but it's only a start.

Haven't tried Shadow of the Colossus or FFX-2.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:24 pm

Maxus wrote: I'm also through most of the 4th book on Odin Sphere. And now that I'm not having to learn the game, I'm kicking ass. .

Did you grind early on through the game?

release and absorb and until there isn't any of the XP stuff to be gained on the level. You'll level you'll characters way too quickly. Some of your characters have that gain half as much xp or mana quality that helps you with this.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:17 pm

Actually, I didn't do much grinding. I mean, I went back through some places, but I also bought a Spirit Stone early on, which means that since I'm at the beginning of the the last chapter, my character's Psypher is level 41. I was in the 30's when I beat the boss the last time.

But, yeah, I know I'm overleveled. Seriously, a full combo can put a hurting on bosses; I can clear out crowds of enemies by just using Cyclone. And if I double the attack power and use Shadow Ally...I'll be lagging horribly, but I won't care because I'll be taking out whatever I'm fighting in one or two combos.

But part of it is experience. F'rinstance, I now know that on a high-difficulty stage, I should get all the enemies on one side of me and use Cyclone. I know that all minibosses can jump. I know the little twirling lava dudes in the fire stage explode when they die.

I also leveled up my health with ordinary food to a point, then ground a couple of recipes, then used the variations a couple of times.

It's been some....seven hours playing time? And I know probably an hour of that was the game being paused while everybody in the world bothers me.

I also know some of the tricks. I died a lot the first time I fought Odin. When I fought him in later chapters, I realized I could knock one of his attacks back at him. So I used it this time.

And it helps that I keep getting dramatically appropriate critical hits. I wiped out about 3/4 of Leventhan's lifebar in one critical hit which happened when I had that 2x attack power ability on.

Sir Neil · Post by **Sir Neil** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:53 pm

Batgirl is a beast in LEGO Batman. She fires off her grab/hit combo much faster than Nightwing, so she just chews through goons.

Judging__Eagle · Post by **Judging__Eagle** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:15 am

PhoneLobster wrote:
Judging__Eagle wrote:Oh, have you guys heard about the new Blood Bowl game that's coming out?
It's made by these French guys who already made it.

Does that make sense?

They made a blood bowl clone called "Chaos League" I have a copy, I didn't like it that much but it IS very blood bowl from it's style and teams right to the mechanics of it (even if you play it in the real time mode).

Then GW took legal action against them while they were developing Chaos League 2.

Then they settled out of court and somehow walked away with the official franchise.

And now... Blood Bowl the official computer game. If you really are a blood bowl fan I expect you will like it, or you could go dig up a copy of Chaos League in the bargain bins if you can't wait.

Ah-ha!

I knew something was up. The game looked like it's already complete, but development was not only not even rumoured, but not even hinted at anywhere that I've seen. Until now.

In any case, anyone who likes violence, sports, and monsters can probably appreciate Blood Bowl.

Also, what didn't you like about the Quake games? Compared to say, Doom? or an other FPS?

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:20 am

I used to play the first Quake religiously, way back when. But all I can remember now is a blur of green, brown, and triple-barreled shotguns.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:23 am

I also used to play Quake a lot - back when I had a 26K dial-up modem, on the server my ISP hosted. Those were the days.